Gregory the Great was NOT the first pope, nor did he claim to be. First and second century documents from even the fathers you cite, like Ignatius, Irenaeus and Augustine, all show that the Bishop in Rome holds the Presidency of the Bishops, and this is very biblically based upon Jesus giving the Keys to Peter.
The Sacraments are all found in scripture quite clearly, and as they were taught by our Lord, are not Pelagian in any way. Our participation in the sacraments is our yielding to actual grace, which in turn yields through the sacrament(s) sanctifying grace.
The Renaissance was NOT the “rebirth of learning”. It was the rebirth of a more secular form of humanism. Not, mind you, all together bad - but not all together good either. The Church was never against learning, science, or education.
The very problem the reformers had was that their principle of “sola scriptura” caused the fragmentation that hit them and factioned Christianity into the 30,000 denominations we have today.
Justin, he is not proposing that the Sacraments are Pelagian. He said that the church believed in the 7 sacraments, in addition to a form of Pelagianism, which contributed to doctrinal/moral decline.
He doesn’t propose that the Renaissance was a “rebirth of learning,” he simply uses the title to divide sections of history as all historians do.
To Dr. Hannah,
I’m surprised you didn’t mention the Roman Catholic split from the Orthodox church, the great schism of 1054.
Gregory the Great was NOT the first pope, nor did he claim to be. First and second century documents from even the fathers you cite, like Ignatius, Irenaeus and Augustine, all show that the Bishop in Rome holds the Presidency of the Bishops, and this is very biblically based upon Jesus giving the Keys to Peter.
The Sacraments are all found in scripture quite clearly, and as they were taught by our Lord, are not Pelagian in any way. Our participation in the sacraments is our yielding to actual grace, which in turn yields through the sacrament(s) sanctifying grace.
The Renaissance was NOT the “rebirth of learning”. It was the rebirth of a more secular form of humanism. Not, mind you, all together bad - but not all together good either. The Church was never against learning, science, or education.
The very problem the reformers had was that their principle of “sola scriptura” caused the fragmentation that hit them and factioned Christianity into the 30,000 denominations we have today.
Justin West | Oct 4, 2007 | Reply
Justin, he is not proposing that the Sacraments are Pelagian. He said that the church believed in the 7 sacraments, in addition to a form of Pelagianism, which contributed to doctrinal/moral decline.
He doesn’t propose that the Renaissance was a “rebirth of learning,” he simply uses the title to divide sections of history as all historians do.
To Dr. Hannah,
I’m surprised you didn’t mention the Roman Catholic split from the Orthodox church, the great schism of 1054.
Aaron R. | Jun 24, 2009 | Reply